Let’s have a little talk about Guild Wars 2
So the pre-order early access/final pre-launch stress test for GW2 was this weekend, and I have a lot of Feelings. A lot a lot.
I was pretty skeptical about this game for several reasons, not the least of which was that I’d spent some time in Guild Wars 1 a million years ago when the earth’s crust was still hot and was bored stupid by it. It’s not really my kind of thing, playing a game where the story doesn’t mean anything to me because I’m so far behind the times. I’m into things like SWTOR and WoW, which have established worlds that I’ve already loved for years and I can eke out my own space within them.
There’s also the problem of the cash shop, which bothers me a lot (and is concerning me about SWTOR’s future). I understand the capitalist theory behind F2P: you can get more cash out of a volume of cheap impulse purchases than you can out of a single steady subscription fee. This is industry-proven, even, considering Blizzard made a couple million dollars off the much-derided sparklepony in a matter of hours. However, understanding the economic theory doesn’t mean I like it. I don’t like it at all, as a matter of fact, because I recognize my own personal limitations. When I get involved with a F2P microtransacted game, I will without fail at one point suddenly surface from a hazy dream of a spending frenzy where I’m playing hangman dressed as a pirate or singing karaoke versions of shitty indie death metal. Seriously my Rock Band track list is motherfucking absurd. So many hundreds of dollars, you guys. It’s not normal.
However, a lot of my friends were planning on spending a lot of their free time in GW2 and the promo shots all looked really pretty, so I figured I’d dick around in it some and set up painstaking screenscapes for fabulous image galleries when the mood strikes me, because hey, no sub fee! I don’t expect to do any actual playing, so the cash shop will not hurt me. I’ll be fine! Fine! Just fine.
I preordered the digital edition, because frankly any time I can spend in my house not interacting with physical people in physical stores is a very good time, which means I got to download and start playing on Friday at 11:30pm. I figured I’d hop in, play around in chargen, reserve some names, and that’d be the end of it for awhile until the mood struck me.
Fast-forward to 2AM Monday morning and I have no idea who I am or what is going on anymore.
I started out with a Norn Guardian because one of the most compelling gameplay mechanics is that your skills change based on what kind of weapon you have equipped, and the Guardian seemed the most diverse there (staves give you very powerful healing spells; two-handed hammers are giant smashy defensive things, etc). Unfortunately, she hit about level five and suddenly guild stuff crashed and she couldn’t represent the guild anymore; since this is pretty important for guild-building, I decided to play around in chargen some more and see what stuck.
After some fiddling to find defaults that did not make me want to kill myself, I ended up with a human ranger because HOLY SHIT DRAGON PET really you guys really DRAGON PET.
Now look, I hate pet classes, because I suck at the micromanagement involved. I even used to have trouble making sure my shadowfiend wasn’t incredibly stupid at, say, breaking CC on Moroes’s adds in Karazhan. So I figured I’d dick around a little, get to the city, play with some dye, and wait for my guardian’s guild invite to repop.
Two days later I’m level 21 and I have no idea what happened.
I have so many feels about what’s good in chargen. The sheer volume of skin tones and body types, the ability to dye your armor wherever you want, the miniscule variations provided in specifying the exact height of the bridge of your character’s nose over and above the dozen or so different basic face shape options. I love this part of it so much.
It should be noted that I did expect to love playing paper dolls; that’s kind of one of the things I’m adamant about in my games, and something that always made me sad about Warcraft. I went straight from SWG and its infinite sliders and Image Designer skill trees into “here, you get half a dozen different faces to choose from, ready go” and I’ve never quite gotten entirely over it.
The one problem I have with this particular character generator is that I went with the headband hair because it’s fucking adorable, and did not realize until I got emotionally invested in playing her that I could not actually ever change the headband color ever again. So I’ve got all these amazing red and purple dyes that I CANNOT USE because ORANGE HEADBAND. The moss trench is really badass, at least.
I didn’t try to level quickly on purpose, and in fact did not try to level at all. I discovered, much to my surprise, that this is an entire game predicated on exploring beautiful, jaw-dropping vistas to find more fake people to do favors for in order to make them love you.
You guys.
You may or may not recall my discussion previously on how one of my primary MMO Win Conditions is making fake people love me. And here is an entire game, AN ENTIRE GAME, where instead of linear questing you DO FAVORS FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THEM LOVE YOU. Literally, there is a little heart you fill up and then they send you presents because THEY LOVE YOU. The Queensdale Monastery Brewery, the pretty vista header for this post, humbly requests that you help them out by taste-testing their new beers.
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WHY DON’T MIND IF I DO.
I kept getting sidetracked on my personal story quest because I’d find just one more Point of Interest over the horizon or just one more underwater camp of adorable tiny many-toothed whalesharkian quaggan needed me to fetch them some crab meat.
And then I decided to kill a little time crafting, just to see what it was like. I picked up cooking, because that’s how you make dyes, and also I’d found a lettuce farm that I totally gutted the shit out of, so I figured it was worth trying. Now, the Master Chef NPC trainer lady tried to warn me: being a chef in Tyria is not for the faint of heart! It is SERIOUSLY HARD CORE! BEWAAAARE! And I was all man fuck you, Master Chef NPC trainer lady, I do what I want.
Oh how wrong I was. Listen to the Master Chef NPC trainer lady, you guys. Do not make my mistake.
I lost like four fucking hours after the gup went to bed last night just playing around with cooking experimentation and discovery just trying to figure out if I could, I dunno, make a BLT. It was two in the morning last night and I was still going WHAT IF I ADD BAY LEAVES????? and I was a twitching, cackling monster. I had to spend ten bucks to buy two more bank tabs because I MIGHT NEED THAT COOKIE DOUGH LATER and HOLY SHIT I HAVE NUTMEG COMING ENTIRELY OUT OF MY ASS and BUT WHAT DO YOU MEAN BANANA CREAM PIE IS CHEF 225 I WANT TO EAT IT NOW.
So Crafting in GW2: fucking awesome. Exploration, vistas, and platformer puzzles where your character jumps entirely when and where you expect them to (I am making a pointed frownyface at you, SWTOR): fucking awesome. Making fake people fake love me: fucking awesome. Having a character with dark skin that looks realistic and not like they dropped a black layer over the default texture: fucking awesome.
However, there are also some … problems … that I’m having. If you aren’t interested in hearing any criticism about GW2, I totally understand that you want to fanninate yourself and hear only good things. That’s cool. Stop reading now, and enjoy your fourteen hundred words of shit that I think is fucking awesome, and enjoy the rest of your time in Tyria.
…Are they gone?
Okay look. There’s a lot of good here, and a lot of things to like, but also some surface shit that is driving me absolutely up a wall. For example, the reason why I started to roll a human ranger and discovered that there was a dragon pet at all is because I had a ladytype name in mind, I wanted to enjoy the human zone, and, I discovered as I was beginning the whole human female thing, playing a caster was completely out of the question.
Why?
Well, let’s take a look at why.
- Elementalists
- Mesmers
- Necromancers
Y’all. Seriously. What the fucking shit is this? The necromancer’s perky little gothic lolita cheerleader is the LEAST offensive of these, but whether or not you like floofy frilly skirts or whatever is not the point: the point is that loot dimorphism, especially this pronounced, is fucking gross and wrong.
If you want your character to wear a loincloth and garters, whatever. More power to you! You make that choice and you own it and you enjoy yourself as only you know how.
HOWEVER.
When the same item ID is an awesome badass robe on a dude and turns into nipple caps and butt floss on not a dude, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
I am not advocating the removal of Sexy Gear, yet whenever I bitch about this kind of thing people throw their hands in the air and flip their fucking shit about OH MY GOD ARO SAYS NO ONE CAN EVER LOOK SEXY EVER. No, see, the thing is about CHOICE. If you CHOOSE to get sexy gear and put it on, THAT IS FINE. I would not ever want to deny people that choice! My WoW figureprint is wearing the Robes of the Guardian Saint, for fuck’s sake. But when you remove that choice, when you say that female characters HAVE TO wear nipple caps and butt floss, we have a problem. When you prevent male characters from wearing nipple caps and butt floss, we have a problem. The solution is SEXY GEAR FOR EVERYONE.
BONUS TIME:
This is a very unfortunate and not very flattering angle for THE QUEEN. It would be really super great if I did not have to deal with sideboob every time I moved up a step on the personal story (and since Alessia is a noble, THIS HAPPENS A LOT). You guys, that is some seriously impressive disregard for physics and over-reliance on boob tape. Royal fashion: a killer.
The other challenge I have with superficial shit is a really small thing, but nonetheless means kind of a lot, and BEWARE SPOILERS FOR HUMAN PERSONAL STORY AT LEVEL 18.
Remember Alessia, my character up above? Well, I met her sister, and she looks like this:
SIGH.
They expect so many people to play blond white folks that they don’t even bother having a customized skin for Deborah (which is something Bioware implemented with awesomeness in Dragon Age 2).
ETA, because this is important: your character’s sister’s race is determined by the option you choose when the story-giver asks you where you and your sister were born. There was a whole list of choices that meant very little to me, and I could find no way to figure out what any of them meant; apparently if I’d made a different choice Deborah would have been dark-skinned. I wish I’d known that earlier!
That’s just such a sad commentary on the status quo default in the gaming community: developers expect you to be white, male, and enjoy looking at naked butts.
I mean being all of those things is totally okay and all, and it is awesome if you are those things! I am not even a dude and I enjoy naked butts from time to time too. But I’m sad that I can’t play a human, norn, or sylvari caster (I have an asura elementalist instead; she gets a robe because short squat humanoids aren’t allowed to be sexy) without wanting to stab myself in the eye, and I’m sad that for all the awesome diversity of NPCs something as important as a PC’s family still defaults to white.
There are so many good things, but there are quite an awful lot of status quo bad ones, too. I expect better.
But hey, I’ve got a bank full of chocolate-covered bananas and cheese pizza and a ton of brewer monks who love me. Party at Divinity’s Reach!







Yep, that annoying headband. i have the same issue with my Norn. :) I will always have to match my armor with something red. maybe they will add a tool in the future?
and I loled at your enthusiasm here :D I am having such a blast right now myself and REALLY hope they fix all what's broken asap. especially the overflow party join option…my biggest gripe right now as I wanna play with friends.
p.s. I hates everybody who got them shiny armors already from GW1!!!!
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I think I may actually re-roll my asura so I don't have to worry about headbobs and accessory shit in more than one place. XD I'm sure they'll put in an option to change it in the gem shop, but …. gem shop. Ugh.
The race of your sister is based on which country you pick for your ancestral homeland, I believe. Elona is the North African option, while Cantha gives you an Asian-looking sister.
I think that was a bit of an oversight on ANet's part, because lots of people will have no idea about the 'cultural flavor' of those regions or that it would make such a difference.
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That's good to know! I seriously had no idea when that question came up in the quest dialog, because I didn't spend any significant time in GW1 or have any idea whatsoever how to find the information on how to differentiate the choices I was given. I did try googling it, but nothing came up as relevant, so I picked the "Kryta" option as a 'fuck it, that's where we are, I guess' default. XD
Having been offline through the whole launch thing I've been living vicariously through blog posts and this one… this is the one that has me thinking "Oh shit, I gotta get my act together and get some gaming time set aside to check this out."
Thanks for the great read!
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The crafting is super-challenging with the auction house variant down, but I am absolutely flabbergasted at how rewarding the cooking is. The puzzle aspect of experimentation is like hot-wired for awesome.
That paragraph about BAY LEAVES and NUTMEG and BANANA CREAM PIE seriously had me laughing. And a game where you can brew BEER?? Totally YOUR game!
…I'm scared to try it. Customization would already take me like, an hour, I'm sure. And now terribly addictive farming elements? Nooooooooo!
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Rades. Rades, the elf people are literally made of trees. And they have bioluminescence. That you can customize in both shade and intensity. YOU CAN LITERALLY GLOW IN THE DARK. LITERALLY.
…. oh my god I wonder if there's a hop farm somewhere I can cannibalize. I have yeast and wheat and cold water, SURELY THERE ARE HOPS, EVEN WARCRAFT HAS HOPS
Nooooooooooo, damn you Aro! I was so happy with my decision not to play GW2 and then you had to go and make this post and talk about dyes and character customization and as I was reading I could feel my hand reaching towards my wallet so I could by the game. The female caster clothes are total bullshit though. Sexy clothes for all is clearly the only solution. If I could have a male caster wearing a Lolita dress that would seriously drain the rest of my willpower.
Also, this sentence is amazing and basically sums up my life: "I preordered the digital edition, because frankly any time I can spend in my house not interacting with physical people in physical stores is a very good time"
INORITE I was just picking up the game so I could talk to people and jump around in cities like a doof, but then they had to do things like LET THE NORTHERN VIKING BARBARIANS HAVE BLUE SKIN and DRAGON PETS and CHEFS BOIL CARROTS TO MAKE ORANGE DYE and TASTE-TESTING BEER and it's like jesus fuck what do you people want from me? I AM NOT MADE OF STONE.
SIGH. Why must I always wear sexy clothes? I DO NOT WANT TO WEAR SEXY CLOTHES. As you said, I don't care if OTHER people want to wear sexy clothes, but generally I do not roll characters who like to go about dressed as if they are two seconds away from entering a wet t-shirt contest.
The thing that irritates me the most about the OMG ARO WANTS TO ELIMINATE SEXY CLOTHES (and indeed, wifeaggrogate) is that when something happens in a game that makes dudes uncomfortable, it is taken seriously and sometimes actually changed. Something happens in a game the ladies find uncomfortable and the response is YOU SHOULD NOT BE UNCOMFORTABLE. Perfect example? Male blood elves and female worgen. Male blood elves made (male) beta testers uncomfortable, so they changed them. Female worgen made (female) beta testers uncomfortable, and the response was WHY ARE YOU OFFENDED DO YOU HATE FEMININITY? (Seriously, a dude told me on ventrilo that I was a misogynist who wanted women to lose all femininity because I wanted female trolls and worgen to be fierce and not sexy sexy discolored humans/furries).
That's what annoys me about the sexy clothes argument. I say: being forced to wear this makes me uncomfortable, and the answer is always YOU RUIN EVERYTHING I LOVE THE LOLIGOTH PETTIGARTERS. Dude fine, WEAR THE LOLIGOTH PETTIGARTERS, but I hate them, don't make ME wear them.
Here is the big thing for me: that default dude mesmer up there would look SMOKING AMAZING in that lady mesmer getup. IF I WANT MY DUDE TO WEAR LOLIGOTH PETTIGARTERS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO.
But you can't dress a dude sexy (except norn rangers, who are dressed I believe only entirely in tattoos), and you can't dress an asura lady sexy, and BOTH OF THESE ARE PROBLEMS. Why can't I put my preciousface sharkygnome in a corset and garters? Why does it have to change? Mr. Aro is playing a human elementalist, and she is wearing the EXACT SAME GEAR my asura is, and while it is nipple caps and butt floss for his characacter it's a long flowy shapeless robe thing for mine.
And they wonder why there are so many body image issues with little girls in this country.
On the note of armour: YES. This. So hard.
I mean, I love me some casters. I'm planning to play three ladycasters and I'm already dreading the gear (save for the Charr ladycaster, of course, because Charrladies aren't allowed to dress sexy either).* It is possible to not dress in Almost Nothing with female casters, but you have to select your gear so hard, it isn't even funny. I played a lot during the Beta Weekends and I repeatedly startled Mr. Utopia by giving a triumphant whoop upon finding trousers or non-miniskirts for my human ladycaster. I was cringing throughout the whole character creation process because of that stupid armour. (Of course, yes, there are always transmutation stones and you get them rather easily, yadda yadda.) And I haven't even started on the cultural armours. SO MUCH FAIL.
And of course, they didn't stop at the light armour designs, oh no. (HEAVY ORRIAN ARMOUR, LET ME COUNT THE WAYS I HATE THEE.)**
It's just… ugh. ArenaNet did great on so many levels only to cave in at the fucking easiest of them all. They just would've had to develop a single version of armour and then make it fit everyone, but no, let's play the gender dimorphism card. Hell, they could've even made miniskirts and make them fit everyone! Buttfloss for everyone! I would've played the hell out of a male character if I could dress him in skirts, no matter the length! But alas, no, let's not upset the average stereotypical male gamer by giving him the option to dress his male character in skirts. Heaven forbid such a frivolous ladything on the manly men of Tyria.
Also, I'm still kinda disappointed that we have to play the male/female-and-nothing-else-ever-divide with the Sylvari. Sigh. They're born from a fucking tree! They don’t reproduce (to my knowledge, at least) because the tree births them! I mean, different sexes are fine, but… It would have been fantastic to have a race that’s not the same old. (But then again, if I think about what’s happened to the Asari – from ‘well, we’re not male or female, we’re monogendered’ to ‘sexy blue spacebabes for the fanservice-y stuff’… maybe ArenaNet’s approach is for the better. Great, now I've depressed myself.)
I could probably rant on forever, but I'll leave it at that. Sorry for the tl;dr-tastic comment, everyone.
*But then again, the non-distinction via clothing in Charr culture could maybe stem from the lore… I don't want to play spoilers here, so I'll leave it at the following: Lore has it that Charr society treats male and female Charr exactly the same, save for some Charr who don't. But anyway, I still wouldn't be happy with that explanation, because Charr are individuals too, dammit, and I while I totally get that Charr probably have different ideas about what is sexy and what is not sexy than humans, CHARR ARE INDIVIDUALS TOO.
Even if Charr society is treating its male and female members exactly the same way and that is indeed the explanation for the fact that there is no sexy gear for the Charr to be found, different Charr are still going to dress differently (hold the presses!). So what if my Charr wants to show off her midriff? Is someone going to die if she shows her legs? Is Rytlock Brimstone himself going to chase her down for baring her back and swaddle her in protective gear, lest someone is will use her bared back to his advantage and bring down the mighty Charr via one fashion choice? Inquiring minds want to know, folks!
**Do not google this if you don't want to ragesplode all over your screen. You have been warned. The male/female-divide on this is incredible, and not in a good way.
Man, that's seriously the root of what I want — I want dudes in skirts. They already wear robes! It's not a stretch! I want sexy gear for Asura, for Charr, for dudes of every stripe. Not just the human/ish women.
Also being able to build a female sylvari with breasts kind of bugs me — or if not actual breasts, their racial clothing defaults to breast-illusion, which is awful. THEY ARE PLANTS. PLANTS DO NOT LACTATE.
There is a reason for the plant breasts that I find satisfactory (actually, it pushes my personal story buttons pretty hard, so take this with a grain of salt — you'll find no objectivity here), but you have to dig pretty deep into the developer interviews and stuff to find it. Sylvari aren't really a species of organisms; they are free-willed constructs made of biological material. The Pale Tree chose to model them on humans for reasons that aren't totally clear to us at this time (though the leading theory is that it has something to do with her growing in soil full of human cremains, which is ghastly, so I love it) and gave them human secondary and presumably primary sexual characteristics in the bargain; gendered behavior, to the extent they display it, is something they picked up from the other sentient races. So they have breasts for the same reason they have eyebrows: they're designed, literally, to approximate a human appearance.
I have an apologist personal canon that sylvari are a lot more mix-and-match than they appear (probably Doylistly influenced by the mix-and-match nature of the character creator), but if canonical this would have implications even more problematic than what we actually get: if there are a lot of sylvari running around with mixed or ambiguous sex traits, why don't we apparently see any?
We're told somewhere in the background information that sylvari are not strongly gendered and adopt gendered behavior (which is to say, human gendered behavior … even though their primary contact with other sentient beings has been with the asura) basically for exploration and lulz, which is interesting, though it also has uncomfortable implications as regards their sexualities. The only queer characters I'm aware of in Tyria are sylvari, and though this hasn't been fully developed (or I have not personally experienced the content that fully develops it), this looks like a classic Liara T'soni dodge to me. Sure those dudes/those women are kissing, but they're not human, they're not standardly gendered, they're naive, they're experimenting. This has implications regarding who is permitted to display queer behaviors (the more other, the better) and what to infer from those queer behaviors when they are displayed (it's not real, it's an experiment, it's not really queer).
Your last paragraph nails what is bothering me about the sylvari. (And, on a slight tangent, I don't quite find the explanation that they're emulating humans satisfactory, I feel it's a sort of cop out. But that's my problem and I'm actually happy that there are people who find this satisfactory, because regularly blowing up at your computer screen isn’t fun and I don’t wish it on anybody.)
What especially hit me the wrong way was that somewhere in Timberland Falls (I think), I ran across some sort of orphanage that is lead by a female sylvari. That made me go ‘hmmm’ a little, but then I talked to her and she said that she wanted to have children, but couldn’t, and therefore: orphanage.
I almost bit into my keyboard out of frustration. On the one hand, it does make sense that a sylvari would want to have children, because to me they seem rather social and caring – on the other, I had this incredibly strong feeling of ‘it’s female, therefore it is a biological imperative that it must want children, but it can’t have them, cue sadness, cue orphanage’. That feeling is probably born out of a certain dislike of the sylvari, so YMMV. (That really applies to all I’m writing here. I’m probably interpreting a lot of things more negatively than others because of said dislike. Tons of salt advised.)
It’s just kind of sad (for me at least), because I feel that the sylvari would have had lots and lots of potential to be something more or less new and very awesome. Free-willed constructs made from plants already sounds very awesome to me and I also like the concept of the Wyld Hunt, but the rest… meh.
Again, I’m finding myself reaching for the More Dudes In Skirts solution: If the sylvari would at least go through on their explorative nature by ignoring gendered dress codes and such, I’d probably be a lot happier. (Why are they ignoring human sexual norms, but not human dress code? Why are they exploring different sexualities, but not also different gender concepts? Why is two chicks in love okay (see Caithe / Faolain), but how comes that there is no homosexual male pair visible (at least for the other races during the personal storyline up to level 70)? What about poly relationships? etc. etc.)
Of course, if they were going through with it, that would also carry the problematic aspects you spoke of with it – the ones having non-normative sexuality and gender performance would be the otherised human-looking sexy exotic beings. That certainly would make for lots of interesting* levels of ickyness.
Anyway, I’ll stop rambling now. Thank you for raising such interesting points! You certainly gave me some things to think about. :)
*not actually interesting
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The male blood elves I think tried to go that way in WoW, they even stood around like chicks.
Okay first of all no, not at all, and second of all generalizations like this are part of the problem. :(
Super super frowny face. :/
Worth noting- You can totally trade in your in-game monies [gold, silver, copper] for gems! :) The last time I checked, it was 95s=300 gems [exactly the price for three minipets. I'm just sayin'.].
I so agree with your observation on the whole sexuality issue. It's just playing into the whole female objectification thing, which is upsetting. Another thing I noticed is that there are dudes who insist that you can't make a male mesmer, because of their armor….? I pointed out that the issue is probably with the whole pink armor thing, which is very obviously changeable, but apparently that's not the problem. Maybe it's time I make a male mesmer.
Although, observing how many times I've gotten hate in map chat for being a woman [because women don't exist on the internet] ranging from mildly irritating to downright hateful, the armor somehow bothers me a lot less.
…. I am totally going to roll a male mesmer and wear ONLY PINKS PURPLES ALL THE TIME FOR EVER.
…as soon as I have enough gold to turn into gems to buy another character slot ah ha ha ha ha.
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